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26 April 2011 @ 04:07 pm
DAENERYS & LUCREZIA: A PARALLEL  


Contains spoilers for The Borgias up to 1x05 "Borgias in Love" and for Game of Thrones up to 1x02 "The Kingsroad".




→ daenerys and lucrezia
They're both 14 years-old. They both get married for political reasons, and pretty much against their will. They're both beautiful, pure, innocent, ethereal. They both have a weird relationship with their brothers - though you can't really compare the genuine love Cesare feels for Lucrezia, to the creepy obsession Daenerys' brother has for her. I guess Daenerys got luckier in the husband department, and Lucrezia in the family one. Both generally waiting to kick some serious ass.


→ meeting her husband for the first time
Both Lucrezia and Daenerys meet their husbands after all the arrangements for their marriages have already been taken care of by their families. Both their husbands are intimidating men of very few words.


→ wedding parties
Both wedding parties are crazy... in two very different ways, but still... no ordinary wedding parties to say the least.


→ just a child
I love how there are very similar frames with people on horses just proceeding along the hills. Coincidence: they're both called "child" in these scenes.

Ser Jorah: you need to drink, child. And eat.

— Game of Thrones 1x02 The Kingsroad

~
Giovanni: I trust you slept well, madame.
Lucrezia: like a child, my lord.
Giovanni: like a child… I have no doubt.

— The Borgias 1x04 Lucrezia’s Wedding



→ sexual education
Both Lucrezia and Daenerys seek help about sexual matters since they're both unexperienced.
Servant: no, Khaleesi. You must look in his eyes always. Love comes in at the eyes. It is said that Irogenia of Lys could finish a man with nothing but her eyes.
Daenerys: finish a man? oh.
Servant: kings travelled across the world for a night with Irogenia. Magisters sold their palaces. Khals burned her enemies just to have her for a few hours. They say a thousand men proposed to her and she refused them all.
Daenerys: well, she sounds like an interesting woman. I - I don’t think that Drogo will like it with me on top.
Servant: you will make him like it, Khaleesi. Men want what they never had, and the Dothraki take slaves like a hound takes a bitch. Are you a slave, Khaleesi? [Daenerys shakes her head] Then don’t make love like a slave. [Daenerys changes their positions] Very good, Khaleesi. Out there he is the mighty Khal, but in this tent, he belongs to you.
Daenerys: I - I don’t think this is the Dothraki way.
Servant: if he wanted the Dothraki way, why did he marry you?

— Game of Thrones 1x02 The Kingsroad

~
Giulia: first, there’s a chaste kiss, full of promise, like this one. [Giulia kisses Lucrezia on the cheek]
Lucrezia: that’s easy.
Giulia: then, there’s the kiss of pleasure, which begins to promise.
Lucrezia: you know them all?
Giulia: all of them and many more. Any woman must.
Lucrezia: show. [Giulia kisses Lucrezia on the lips]

— The Borgias 1x04 Lucrezia’s Wedding



→ the first night
This is the first scene that made me realise how many things these two have in common. I watched 'The Borgias' first, and I was quite shaken by that horrible final scene with Giovanni and Lucrezia. I wasn't happy when I watched 'Game of Thrones' right after that and found a scene that looked exactly like that one. Daenerys doesn't quite experience the same violence as Lucrezia, but seeing her cry like that... it wasn't nice. Plus, they're both talking about words/languages.
Khal Drogo: no.
Daenerys: do you know the common tongue?
Khal Drogo: no.
Daenerys: is no the only word that you know?
Khal Drogo: no.

— Game of Thrones 1x01 Winter is Coming

~
Giovanni: you wanted words. I have words.
Lucrezia: words for what, my lord?
Giovanni: for that Borgia wedding. A farce. Travesty. A scandal. A public humiliation. Oh, we’re married now.

— The Borgias 1x04 Lucrezia’s Wedding



→ sex advises
Once again, their respective servants give them sex-related advises to make their sex-lives better. While Daenerys wants to make Khal Drogo happy, Lucrezia just seeks help to make her encounters with Giovanni as brief as possible.
Daenerys: why did the trader from Garth tell you these stories?
Servant: men like to talk when they’re happy. Before your brother bought me for you it was my job to make men happy.
Daenerys: how old were you?
Servant: I was nine when my mother sold me to the pleasure house.
Daenerys: nine?
Servant: I did not touch a man for three years, Khaleesi. First, you must learn.
Daenerys: can you teach me how to make the Khal happy?
Servant: yes.
Daenerys: will it take three years?
Servant: no.

— Game of Thrones 1x02 The Kingsroad

~
Francesca: did he beat last night?
Lucrezia: no, but he thrusted. I counted twenty-seven of them. Thirty-two the night before.
Francesca: already more bearable. You must quicken his pleasure.
Lucrezia: is that possible?
Francesca: indeed. You can reduce it to single figures. And for the sake of one’s own endurance, I find it helps to count.
Lucrezia: to count?
Francesca: sheep.

— The Borgias 1x05 Borgias In Love


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the once and future fangirlmollivanders on April 26th, 2011 02:20 pm (UTC)
This is a really thoughtful and well done picspam. I too was shaken by the way both Daenerys and Lucrezia were treated in their marriages and sexual experiences, though with The Borgias it is in some ways more bearable because it actually is historical. Daenerys' experience is getting better for me because you're right, her husband is nothing like Sforza.

Will link to this :)
Serena: 036 // Leighton ~ Pink Chicherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:16 pm (UTC)
I had a weird feeling about Lucrezia's first night since the beginning, and I KNEW something bad was going to happen ugh. I just hope they won't show anymore "rape" scenes :/ there were so many in the latest episode.
Daenerys and Drogo seem okay already! Good for her (:

Thank you so much ♥
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retrovicious: ♠ because you make me happyretrovicious on April 26th, 2011 02:38 pm (UTC)
this is so beautifully done and i love the coloring!
Serena: 028 // RPattz ~ Chin Pornherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much :D ♥
it's juls: kahlanlookwandererjulia on April 26th, 2011 02:43 pm (UTC)
no ma questo picspam è favoloso cara ♥ sono in love per la perfezione ASSOLUTA. e poi tutti i tuoi commenti sono così perfetti. che ci fossero affinità me n'ero accorta però non così profondamente ** finisce dritto dritto nelle memories, io te lo dico u_ù
Serena: 014 // Text ~ Great in Bedherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:19 pm (UTC)
ma grazie :D gentilissima ♥
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Serena: 045 // RPattz ~ Flippedherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:19 pm (UTC)
thank you :D ♥
lovepblovepb on April 26th, 2011 03:32 pm (UTC)
I saw these on tumblr, gorgeous picspam.
Serena: 043 // Zoe Saldana ~ Purple Gorgeousherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you :D ♥
whitelily22whitelily22 on April 26th, 2011 04:02 pm (UTC)
WOW THIS is an amazing picspam and its funny because I watch both shows and I was thinking about the exact same thing.

The coloring is beautiful!
Serena: 060 // Glee ~ Sue Smells Bullshitherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:21 pm (UTC)
Thank you ♥
LOL yes, it came to the point where I HAD to picspam all the similarities. There are way too many! :P
visionsbeyond: ned stark GoTvisionsbeyond on April 26th, 2011 04:08 pm (UTC)
I haven`t watched Borgias but I love the picspam! Their lives upto this point are so sad yet similar with some horrifying experiences. More than the wedding night the first scene of episode 2 of GoT of Dany and Drogo shocked me :(
Anyway I`m liking how Dany`s finally get things done her way! Nice spam again and love the dramatic coloring! :)
Serena: 035 // Carey ~ Prettinessherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:23 pm (UTC)
It seriously is sad :/ I wish they could just "break free" of their situations, cause they aren't fun. It's going better for Daenerys though (: Happy for her!

And thank you ♥
♔ Lydzi ♔ Au service du Roi Rickon.lydzi on April 26th, 2011 04:23 pm (UTC)
I never saw it more clearly. It's beautiful :)
Serena: 038 // True Blood ~ Fangs!Ericherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:24 pm (UTC)
Thank you :D ♥
more_lemonade: Borgias - Cesare - darknessmore_lemonade on April 26th, 2011 04:35 pm (UTC)
I noticed this, too. It's weird how similar they are. I'm glad Lucrezia didn't get a mean/crazy brother like Dany, though. I adore Cesare. Love both shows and both women and your picspam. It's beautiful. <3
Serena: 029 // Chuck & Blair ~ Kiss Meherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I love Cesare, and he definitely loves her. As I said, Lucrezia is luckier family-wise, and Daenerys got the best husband... even if he's some kind of a... beast, lol.

Thank you so much ♥
faraday21 on April 26th, 2011 04:43 pm (UTC)
The parralels are so obvious now, I love Lucrezia more than Daenerys though
Serena: 033 // Ed & Leighton ~ Dark Obsessionherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:25 pm (UTC)
I'm definitely more attached to Lucrezia for now, but I love them both (:
Samitasaltybread on April 26th, 2011 04:53 pm (UTC)
Love it! <3 Great picspam!
Serena: 034 // Christian Bale ~ Pale Greyherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:26 pm (UTC)
thank you ♥
Angélique: other showangelic37 on April 26th, 2011 05:14 pm (UTC)
Oh well, I now understand why I like both characters almost as much (I'm still loving Lucrezia more because of Cesare ...)

Really great job, I indeed thought they were somehow alike, but not as much as you have picspammed !
Serena: 053 // Scarlett ~ Linesherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:28 pm (UTC)
I'm definitely rooting for them ♥ (and yes I do love their relationship. I hope she'll be back in Rome soon!)

Thank you so much :D
simplycolourful: lots - Kahlan - Pilotsimplycolourful on April 26th, 2011 05:18 pm (UTC)
This is really pretty and they really have a lot in common.
Serena: 029 // Chuck & Blair ~ Kiss Meherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:28 pm (UTC)
thank you :D ♥
Vanessad_garmo71 on April 26th, 2011 05:46 pm (UTC)
This is the first scene that made me realise how many things these two have in common

Same here. =)
I'm always horrified by rape scenes but to think that this probably happened (happens?) a lot all in the name of 'marital duties' is just... ugh! =/

ETA Totally forgot to thank you for posting. Beautifully done.

Edited at 2011-04-26 05:47 pm (UTC)
Serena: 032 // KStew ~ Gold Daysherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 05:56 pm (UTC)
God, yes :/ it was awful. And one after the other, the episodes both aired the same night! It felt like they made it on purpose ç____ç

Thank you so much <3
eiko82eiko82 on April 26th, 2011 07:00 pm (UTC)
Absolutely gorgeous picspam. It's interesting to see the comparisons. Giovanni is a complete asshole and I hope that he gets what he deserves. Poor Lucrezia.

I adore Daenerys, tho I was sad to see the Drogo/Dany relationship portrayed as such an unhappy one. In the books, it's quite different. So it upset me to see Drogo rape her on their wedding night.
Serena: 033 // Ed & Leighton ~ Dark Obsessionherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 07:16 pm (UTC)
Ugh, yes. I hope he'll end in a painful way ò_ò

That's what I've been hearing about them. I haven't read the book, so IDK. In the latest episode you already see things are getting better, but still... it didn't start well. And thinking she wanted to make him happy even after the way he treated her doesn't make much sense to me *sighs* I wonder why the writers took that direction :/

Also, thank you <3
(no subject) - eiko82 on April 26th, 2011 07:41 pm (UTC) (Expand)
aydenheadswedance on April 26th, 2011 07:12 pm (UTC)
This is gorgeous. I love the comparisons.
Serena: 010 // Zachary ~ Scruffy Awesomeherm_weasley on April 26th, 2011 07:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you :D
Devindevymel12 on April 26th, 2011 10:00 pm (UTC)
beautiful!
Serena: 82herm_weasley on April 27th, 2011 04:20 pm (UTC)
thank you :D
Victoria: borgias: peek in - sneak aboutblighted_star on April 26th, 2011 11:43 pm (UTC)
I love Lucrezia. I'm waiting for her to cut Sforza's heart out with a dinner knife.
Serena: 5herm_weasley on April 27th, 2011 04:20 pm (UTC)
THIS. YES.
hydrate or die tryin': Horse- Friesiani_like_neon_ice on April 27th, 2011 12:13 am (UTC)
The coloring of this picspam is stunning and I love your parallels.

These shows are just visually incredible too.
Serena: 030 // Misfits ~ Nathan/Muscleherm_weasley on April 27th, 2011 04:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much :D and yes, super pretty!
Procrastinator Extraordinaire: Science!nightmer on April 27th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)
Wow, I looked at this earlier and it encouraged me to finally download The Borgias. Thank you! I love it and this analysis.
Serena: 023 // Shia ~ Jaw!Pornherm_weasley on April 27th, 2011 04:21 pm (UTC)
I'm loving it so far :D the visuals, the costumes, everything's amazing :D
You're welcome :D <3 and thank YOU!
Samarsakuraberries on April 28th, 2011 01:17 am (UTC)
Wow, it's incredible the amount of similarities these two share. Uncanny!

Lovely, well-thought out picspam.
Serena: 006 // Shia ~ Looking Fiiiineherm_weasley on April 28th, 2011 12:45 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much :D
yuripaddle on April 29th, 2011 03:12 pm (UTC)
I was totally thinking this watching both series! Thanks for all the screenies.
Serena: 008 // Chuck & Blair ~ I Am Nowherm_weasley on April 29th, 2011 07:28 pm (UTC)
Thank you :D
dude von dudensteinjessikacast on May 30th, 2011 01:48 am (UTC)
Great work, so well thought out and put together. Kudos!